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0001120K18X001.00 SKB SWANSWpublic2021-12-22 11:31
Reporter(ALTech) Wooshin Kang Assigned To(ALTech) Wooshin Kang Due Date
PriorityhighSeveritys2-severeReproducibilityalways
Status closedResolutionfixed 
Summary0001120: [SWAN] LKFS TEST Result.
DescriptionI share LKFS test result and reference data image.
we need to adjust volume level. Please add your job.

Thanks,
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User List (SW) Jim Lin , (SW) Kerwin Chen , (SW) River Wong

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(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-14 08:49

developer  

lkfs_ref.png (77,067 bytes)   
lkfs_ref.png (77,067 bytes)   
LKFS_0113.xlsx (2,627,252 bytes)

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-15 18:21

developer   ~0005880

Hi Jacky,

How can we make to satisfy this spec ? Please comment.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-19 12:48

developer   ~0005896

Hi Jacky,

Who is order of this issue..?

Thanks,

(SW) Jacky Chiang

2021-01-19 13:48

manager   ~0005897

Hi Wooshin,

     I took some time to study LKFS and I think there are 3 options that need to be chosen.
Option 1) Normalize loudness directly when transcoding audio stream in headend
Option 2) Measure loudness only when transcoding audio stream and save the measured data. Let player side adjusts loudness according to the data.
Option 3) Normalizes loudness in player side

How do you think ? Because the IPTV player is not implemented by us so I think this issue needs to be discussed with SPtek together and then go to next step.

Best Regards,
Jacky

(SW) Jacky Chiang

2021-01-19 14:05

manager   ~0005899

Last edited: 2021-01-19 16:06

From the LKFS measure data you provided, we can see the different dB level in different IPTV channels.
However, for our side, we only can adjust all the channels to higher/lower some dB values through volume table according to different kind of streams, ex: BTV, NUGU, MUSIC etc. But, we can't distinguish one specific BTV channel from all BTV channels in our layer in SWAN software architecture.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-19 17:58

developer   ~0005904

I asked it to kail of Synaptics. If any update, i will inform you.

(SW) Jacky Chiang

2021-01-20 10:52

manager   ~0005916

Hi Wooshin,

     Did this data measure from HDMI output ?

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-21 08:12

developer   ~0005922

Hi, jacky

yes, LKFS test device is connected with swan by hdmi.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-01-26 10:25

developer   ~0005947

https://synaextjira.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SKBSBALT/issues/SKBSBALT-107

(SW) Jim Lin

2021-02-18 11:29

developer   ~0006097

Hi Wooshin,

Foxconn(Sam) side already gave the HDMI unmute patch for Synaptics, so do we not have to take new actions?

Thanks,
Jim Lin

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-02-18 14:19

developer   ~0006100

Hi jim,

I think we have to wait feedback from synaptics.

Thanks.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-06-16 19:08

developer   ~0007477

Hi jim,

SKB request LKFS test for SWAN.
After change audio output set to external device like attached picture and do test.

Thanks.
IMG_3924.HEIC (2,783,676 bytes)

(SW) River Wong

2021-06-17 10:10

developer   ~0007483

Hi Wooshin,

Because we have few DVT3 devices, we are trying to arrange a DVT3 box to our QA for testing.
And we also need to book the lab and QA resource to do it.

Please also note, because passthrough mode is enabled as you requested, only AAC TS stream will be tested (Becasue AC3 will be passthrough to HDMI side and it is not able to test)

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-06-17 16:07

developer   ~0007489

Hi River,

Thanks for your information.
We need also result for test AC3. so, do test like below steps.

1. Build special image for hdmi output.
2. Set volume to 32
3. Do test.

Thanks.

(SW) River Wong

2021-06-28 14:30

developer   ~0007562

Hi Wooshin,

The attached file is the HDMI out LKFS test result to use 6 ts files in https://mantis.cnsbg.foxconn.com/vaas/view.php?id=1179#c7168.
We use a special image to always unmute HDMI to do the test.
I am not sure if this meet your requirement or not.
If you have any suggestion or comment, please let us know.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-06-28 16:07

developer   ~0007564

Hi River,

I saw test result, but we have to adjust level ( -24db +- 2db ).
Please support it.

Thanks.

(SW) River Wong

2021-06-28 18:49

developer   ~0007568

Hi Wooshin,

Sure, we will support it.
But from the result, it seems 6 test streams has big different volume values.
We need to know which one should be adjusted to which value to meet your requirement.

I think we can ignore CM5000_AAC value because it is more louder than others (I also notice CM5000_AAC is louder in Eagle's measurement in mantis 1179).
But except CM5000_AAC, the gap between the max(-30.45) and min(-24.79) is 5.66, So, it is impossible to adjust it to -24db+- 2db.
If we do not consider CM5000_AAC, we can only adjust these 5 streams to -24db+-3db, is this ok for you?

Current SWAN dbfs value in Max 32 level in previous attached result:

CM5000_AAC: -11.42
IP_ALC_TS_OUT_AAC: -24.79
SBS_CM500_AAC: -29.78

CM5000_AC3: -30.45
IP_ALC_TS_OUT_AC3: -24.89
SBC_AC3: -29.78

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-07-01 09:16

developer   ~0007592

Hi River,

You don't need to test CM5000_AAC, i got a new from SKB, it is wrong file.
Thanks.

(ALTech) Wooshin Kang

2021-07-05 14:04

developer   ~0007604

I update your test result.

#############################################
SBS_CM5000_AAC.ts SBS_정파.mpg
CH1(Left) CH2(Right) CH1(Left) CH2(Right)
 -23.049 -23.018 -23.041 -23.011
#############################################
It needs to adjust -24 +- 0.5 ( not +- 2)

Thanks

(SW) Jerry Lin

2021-07-13 08:40

developer   ~0007662

update SBS_AAC & SBS_AC3 32 volume level test report
SBS_AC3.jpg (92,241 bytes)   
SBS_AC3.jpg (92,241 bytes)   
SRS_AAC.jpg (96,821 bytes)   
SRS_AAC.jpg (96,821 bytes)   

(SW) Jerry Lin

2021-12-22 09:33

developer   ~0008976

It has not been updated for a long time, please help close this question

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2021-01-14 08:49 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang New Issue
2021-01-14 08:49 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Status new => assigned
2021-01-14 08:49 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Assigned To => (SW) Jacky Chiang
2021-01-14 08:49 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang File Added: lkfs_ref.png
2021-01-14 08:49 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang File Added: LKFS_0113.xlsx
2021-01-14 09:06 (SW) Jacky Chiang Issue Monitored: (SW) Kerwin Chen
2021-01-14 09:06 (SW) Jacky Chiang Issue Monitored: (SW) River Wong
2021-01-14 09:07 (SW) Jacky Chiang Issue Monitored: (SW) Jim Lin
2021-01-15 18:21 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0005880
2021-01-19 12:48 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0005896
2021-01-19 13:48 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Added: 0005897
2021-01-19 14:05 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Added: 0005899
2021-01-19 14:06 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Edited: 0005899
2021-01-19 16:05 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Edited: 0005899
2021-01-19 16:06 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Edited: 0005899
2021-01-19 17:58 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0005904
2021-01-20 10:52 (SW) Jacky Chiang Note Added: 0005916
2021-01-21 08:12 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0005922
2021-01-26 10:25 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0005947
2021-02-18 11:29 (SW) Jim Lin Note Added: 0006097
2021-02-18 11:30 (SW) Jim Lin Assigned To (SW) Jacky Chiang => (ALTech) Wooshin Kang
2021-02-18 11:30 (SW) Jim Lin Status assigned => feedback
2021-02-18 14:19 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0006100
2021-06-16 19:08 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang File Added: IMG_3924.HEIC
2021-06-16 19:08 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0007477
2021-06-17 10:00 (SW) Jacky Chiang Assigned To (ALTech) Wooshin Kang => (SW) River Wong
2021-06-17 10:10 (SW) River Wong Note Added: 0007483
2021-06-17 16:07 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0007489
2021-06-17 16:07 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Status feedback => assigned
2021-06-28 14:30 (SW) River Wong File Added: SWAN_HDMI_out_level_0628.xls
2021-06-28 14:30 (SW) River Wong Note Added: 0007562
2021-06-28 16:07 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0007564
2021-06-28 18:49 (SW) River Wong Note Added: 0007568
2021-06-29 23:34 (SW) Jacky Chiang Assigned To (SW) River Wong => (SW) Jerry Lin
2021-07-01 09:16 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0007592
2021-07-05 14:04 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Note Added: 0007604
2021-07-13 08:40 (SW) Jerry Lin File Added: SBS_AC3.jpg
2021-07-13 08:40 (SW) Jerry Lin File Added: SRS_AAC.jpg
2021-07-13 08:40 (SW) Jerry Lin Note Added: 0007662
2021-12-22 09:33 (SW) Jerry Lin Assigned To (SW) Jerry Lin => (ALTech) Wooshin Kang
2021-12-22 09:33 (SW) Jerry Lin Status assigned => resolved
2021-12-22 09:33 (SW) Jerry Lin Resolution open => fixed
2021-12-22 09:33 (SW) Jerry Lin Note Added: 0008976
2021-12-22 11:31 (ALTech) Wooshin Kang Status resolved => closed